Tuesday, 8 January 2013

The Children of Herbert George Norris and Elizabeth Fanny Darby

Herbert George Norris was my Great Grandfather. On October 21st 1894 he married Elizabeth Fanny Darby at the Church in the parish of St James the Great in the County of Middlesex.

To date, (and this is very much work in progress) it is found that they had the following children:

Elizabeth Lilian Norris - born c 1895 in Lambeth, London
My mum remembers there was an "Aunt Lil".
She appears as Lily Norriss (sic) aged 16 and a General Servant in the 1911 Census and as Eliza Lilian Norris, aged 6, in the 1901 Census.
Eliza Lilian Norris was baptised on February 3rd 1897 at St Peter's Church Vauxhall in the county of London.

George Albert John Norris - born c 1897 in Lambeth, London
He was baptised on 26th January 1898 at St Peter's Church Vauxhall in the County of London.
He appears as George Norriss (sic), aged 14 and an Office Boy, in the 1911 Census and as George Albert John Norris, aged 4, in the 1901 Census

Herbert William Norris - born 20th June 1899 in Bermondsey
This was my grandfather; he was known as William or Bill Norris. He was registered as Herbert William Norris in the Registration District of St Olave, Bermondsey in the the third quarter of 1899. He married my grandmother Lucy H Bristow in the Summer of 1918 in Southwark London. The marriage registration record has his name as William H Norris.
He appears as William Norriss (sic), aged 11 in the 1911 Census, and as William Norris aged 1 in the Census of 1901.

Florence Elizabeth Norris - born 1901
Florence was baptised at All Saints, South Lambeth, in the County of Surrey on September 8th 1901.
My mother remembers Florence as being disabled and living in later life in Peabody Buildings. This may have been housing provided by the charity The Peabody Trust. In the 1911 census there is a Florence Norris (from London and with an estimated birth date of 1902) living at the Victoria Home for Crippled Children in Bournemouth.

Herbert Albert Norris - born 1903 in Lambeth
His birth was registered in the Registration District of Lambeth, London in the 2nd quarter of 1903, and he was baptised on May 10th of that year.
He appears as Albert Norriss, aged 8, in the 1911 Census.
He was known to my mum's family as Albert Norris, but to his own immediate family as Herbert.

Herbert Albert Norris

Cecil Norris - born c 1906
My mum does not think she ever met him, but does remember her own mother describing him as "wearing a camel coat and white scarf and with a silver headed walking stick"
According to the 1911 Census Cecil Norriss (sic) was born in Handsworth and was aged 5 years.( I wonder if Handsworth is an error and Wandsworth meant).
Interestingly, Cecil also appears to be known as Cyril in other parts of the family, though the reason for this is not yet clear.

Gladys Norris - born c 1907
Gladdis Norriss (sic) appears in the 1911 Census as aged 4 years and her birth place is given as Tooteing (sic) Surrey
Nothing else is presently known about her.

Leonard Norris - born c 1910 in Tooting
My mum knew him as "Little Lennie".
In the 1911 Census Leonard Norriss (sic) is said to be 9 months old and his birth place is given as Tooteing (sic) Surrey.

Doris Ivy Norris - born 1912 in Southwark.
I do not have any definite information about Doris Ivy Norris but it is possible that Doris was born on 30th June 1912, that she married a Gordon Williams in 1932 and died in 1983 in Wandsworth, London.

William Norris (left) with Leonard Norris


And now a mystery, courtesy of Arnold Fletcher (from the Australian branch of the Norris family) ... Arnold sent me a copy of a record which shows that, on 2nd August 1899, Herbert George and Elizabeth Fanny baptised a son, Herbert George, at St Luke in the Diocese of London ... what are we to make of this? The date fits to my grandfather Herbert William Norris, but not the name. However, to date I have no baptismal record for my grandfather, so was his name perhaps recorded wrongly? Certainly it can not be the George Albert John Norris who was born c 1897 as a baptismal record (as detailed above) exists for him already. As always any help that anyone can give will be greatly appreciated!

A big thank you to Arnold Fetcher, Shirley Norris, Pearl Norris and Ian Braban
for there help in preparing this material!

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